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		<title>Final Thoughts on Mormonism as a Cult</title>
		<link>http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/16/final-thoughts-on-mormonism-as-a-cult/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve reviewed several things over the past several posts. With everything, I never set out to totally disprove Mormonism. That would take much more time, and an extensive amount of research. I do not have time or will to devote my studies to this topic. This is a post with some closing thoughts about the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>We&#8217;ve reviewed several things over the past several posts. With everything, I never set out to totally disprove Mormonism. That would take much more time, and an extensive amount of research. I do not have time or will to devote my studies to this topic. This is a post with some closing thoughts about the Latter Day Saints.</p>
<p>Christianity is monotheistic.  This means that there is a belief that only one god has ever existed.  Christianity also believes that God has no beginning and created all things.  Mormonism, on the other hand, is polytheistic (<a href="http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/mormonshopetobecomegods.htm" target="_blank">sources</a>).  They believe that God was not always God (<a href="http://www.lifeafter.org/exaltedman.asp" target="_blank">great article concerning this matter</a>), and that God was not created any differently than any of us (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/93" target="_blank">Doctrines and Covenants 93:29</a>).</p>
<p>Mormons also consider the Book of Mormon to be just as authoritative (if not more) than the Bible.</p>
<p>Mormons believe we can become gods.  Here is a great article concerning that: <a href="http://www.mrm.org/topics/salvation/god-man-may-become" target="_blank">As God Is, Man May Become?</a></p>
<p>For these reasons, the Mormons are a cult.  Thank you for the time you have spent in discussing this issue with me.</p>
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		<title>Book of Mormon: True of False?</title>
		<link>http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/14/book-of-mormon-true-of-false/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mormons believe in the Bible.  Their preferred translation is the King James Version (KJV).  Many other Christian churches use this translation today.  I would say that this is probably one of the worse translations to get these days.  If you want to know a little more about that, please refer to What Version of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Mormons believe in the Bible.  Their preferred translation is the King James Version (KJV).  Many other Christian churches use this translation today.  I would say that this is probably one of the worse translations to get these days.  If you want to know a little more about that, please refer to <a title="Learn about several different versions of the Bible." href="http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/07/what-version-of-the-bible-do-you-use/" target="_blank">What Version of the Bible Do You Use?</a></p>
<p>We are not here to look at the Bible today, however.  The Book of Mormon is what we are focusing on in this particular post.  The Latter Day Saints look at this book as their primary historical book.  This is the book that supposedly came from golden plates that Joseph Smith translated.  Mormons refer to the Book of Mormon as their Bible.  Know lets look at what it says&#8230;</p>
<p>I do not have the time to get into too extensive detail, but here are some issues historically with the Book of Mormon.</p>
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<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/18" target="_blank">1 Nephi 18:12</a> - the use of a compass<br />
Nephi tells the story of when some Jewish people first came over the to the Americas taking place right around 575 BC.  The compass was not used as a navigation tool until 1000 AD (read about it <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Yu_(author)#cite_ref-sivin_III_22_2-0" target="_blank">here</a>).  The times here are just not matching up.</li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/4" target="_blank">1 Nephi 4:9</a> - use of a steel sword<br />
Steel was not used in Rome until the 4th century BC.  Africa may have produced steel as far back as 1400 BC, but for Jews to have used this form of metal that early is HIGHLY unlikely.</li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jacob/7" target="_blank">Jacob 7:27</a> - French speakers<br />
The last word of this book is &#8216;adiue.&#8217;  It is French for farewell.  For information regarding the date of this word, look <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adieu" target="_blank">here</a>.  This book took place as late as 421 BC, but this word did not even exist until the 1400&#8217;s AD.</li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/20" target="_blank">Almah 20:6</a> - Horses in the Americas<br />
Horses have been around since creation, obviously.  So when the book of Almah took place, around 90 BC, horses existed.  Just not in the Americas.  It was not until the 15th century when Spaniards brought horses on this land, so yet another issue (historically) with the Book of Mormon.</li>
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<p>There are also talks of two great people in the Book of Mormon, the Lamanites and the Nephites.  There have been ABSOLUTELY NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL FINDS to prove these two people groups even existed.</p>
<p>In short, there are just too many rough spots with this book.  Besides, why do we not see either of these groups mentioned in the Bible if they are so important (are real)?</p>
<p>This is the last of the reasons I wanted to look at the Mormons as a cult.  They look at the Book of Mormon as an authoritative writing more than the Bible.  They believe in more than one God (polytheism).  I do not wish to get into the practices that are not Christian (like baptism for the dead or the eternal progression).  Bottom line, stay away from Mormon theology.  They are clever and use much of the same language as Christianity, but <em>they are not Christian</em>.  God bless.</p>
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		<title>The Mormon Jesus</title>
		<link>http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/11/the-mormon-jesus/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is Jesus? According to the Christian Bible Jesus is the son of God, He is God, He created man, and He is Savior to all humankind.  There is only one God who is immortal.  Jesus was miraculously born from the virgin Mary and died on the cross, only to rise from the dead three days later, thus saving humanity.  God is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Who is Jesus? According to the Christian Bible Jesus is the son of God, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%201:1;&amp;version=47;" target="_blank">He is God</a>, He <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%201:1;&amp;version=47;" target="_blank">created man</a>, and He is <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&amp;chapter=3&amp;verse=18&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse" target="_blank">Savior</a> to all humankind.  There is only one God who is immortal.  Jesus was miraculously born from the virgin Mary and died on the cross, only to rise from the dead three days later, thus saving humanity.  God is a trinitarian being, meaning he exists as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  These are fundamental beliefs for the Christian faith.</p>
<p>Their claim is that he is not God&#8217;s only son, but that we are all the children of God.  He is considered to be the brother of Satan.  We are all supposedly brothers and sisters in that we are all his created spirit-children.  Put the two ideas together, we are the brothers and sisters of Satan and Jesus as well!  He had to physically have many children (literally&#8230; as in having to concieve every single one of us with some female being).</p>
<p>God was once as we were (<em><a href="http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/T6.html" target="_blank">Teachings of the Prophect Joseph Smith</a>, </em>345).  He was flesh, was mortal, and even grew up somewhere before he became God of Earth.  If we do what we are supposed to while we live, we could possibly be gods one day as well.  Then, just like God, we can work on populating our own planet.</p>
<p>According to Mormon theology, Jesus is not God.  Their religious foundation is based on the belief of many gods, this is called polytheism.  Christianity is monotheistic, meaning a belief in one god.</p>
<p>He is also not considered to be the Savior for mankind in the same sense that Christianity believes.  There is also not claim that Jesus was born from a virgin Mary, but rather that God came down and did the deed so that she was pregnant.</p>
<p>As we can see, the Mormon Jesus is not the same Jesus as the Christians.  Two different people.  Christians believe Jesus to be God, and since Mormons do not it would safe to assume they are seperate religions.  Unfortunately, Mormonism is still trying to masquerade as a Christian Denomination.</p>
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		<title>Joseph Smith: Mormon Founder</title>
		<link>http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/10/joseph-smith-mormon-founder/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Born in 1805, Joseph Smith Jr. was never a part of any church while growing up.  He and his father were well known for their treasure hunting interests.  They would go on digs around New York looking for treasure, but could never find anything of substance.
Smith Jr. claimed that his first vision accured at the age of 14 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span>Born in 1805, Joseph Smith Jr. was never a part of any church while growing up.  He and his father were well known for their treasure hunting interests.  They would go on digs around New York looking for treasure, but could never find anything of substance.</span></p>
<p><span>Smith Jr. claimed that his first vision accured at the age of 14 (1820).  Three years later, Smith claimed to have another vision from an angel named <span><a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angel_Moroni" target="_blank">Maroni</a></span> who tells him the locations of golden plates located in Palmyra, NY.  These plates came from Jews who populated the Americas; the <span>Nemphites</span>.</span></p>
<p><span>Four years later he finds the plates but he cannot show anyone because <span>Maroni</span> said he couldn&#8217;t.  They were written in &#8220;Reformed Egyptian,&#8221; which isn&#8217;t a real language.  Smith can&#8217;t read the fake language, and so he uses two stones that <span>Maroni</span> gave to him to translate.  The stones, <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Seer_Stones" target="_blank"><span>Urim</span> and <span>Thummim</span></a>, are held up to his eyes so that he can translate the writings.</span></p>
<p>Only three witnesses saw this crazy process happen, and all three of them ended up quitting.  Smith would be on one side of a curtain (so no one could see), and he translated outloud to someone who would write what was being said.  No one ever saw the plates.</p>
<p><span>The Church of Jesus of Later-Day Saints was officially founded in 1830, and polygamy was prevalent.  Because of such, many people opposed Smith (especially since most of his wives were under 16).  His followers went with him across the States, and since things never go well, they keep on moving.</span></p>
<p>Eventually, Smith is arrested in Navoo, IL and put in jail in Carthage, IL.  Why was he arrested?  After <em>The Nauvoo Expositor</em> has published some anti-Mormon material, Smith went and destroyed the <em>Expositer&#8217;s </em>printing press, crippling the newpaper from any further publications.  The people were so mad at Smith that they dragged him with his brother to the middle of the street and executed him.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this created a martyr out of Joseph Smith.  Ever since, the Mormon&#8217;s have been actively growing.</p>
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		<title>The Meaning of &#8216;Cult&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://blogofmick.com/2008/10/09/the-meaning-of-cult/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before I get into too much detail here, a cult should be defined.  Before we can define a cult, however, we must first explain what a religion is.
Religion: a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
Some well known world religions would be Judaism, Hinduism, Muslim, and Christianity.  Notice that one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Before I get into too much detail here, a cult should be defined.  Before we can define a cult, however, we must first explain what a religion is.</p>
<p><a title="Definition of Religion" href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=religion" target="_blank">Religion</a>: a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny</p>
<p>Some well known world religions would be Judaism, Hinduism, Muslim, and Christianity.  Notice that one group is not claiming to be a part of another group.  Each religion is it&#8217;s own entity with a deity (or deities), sacred writing, and religious practices.</p>
<p>A cult (not to be confused the occult), would then be defined as follows:</p>
<p><a title="Definition of Cult" href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cult" target="_blank">Cult</a>: a religion or sect that is generally considered to be unorthodox, extremist, or false</p>
<p>The best way in which a cult can be identified is to see what it claims to be.  A cult claims association with a religion, but does not share the same views of sacred writings or deity.  By looking at these two parts of a religious group, one can then decide as to whether they are a religion (or a denomination of that religion), or indeed a cult.</p>
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		<title>New Beginnings</title>
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After some careful consideration, I have decided to start a second blog.  Too often I have talked about extremely random topics, usually never keeping a consistant flow through the site.  All of my previous posts have been moved to lifeofmick.wordpress.com.
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<p>After some careful consideration, I have decided to start a second blog.  Too often I have talked about extremely random topics, usually never keeping a consistant flow through the site.  All of my previous posts have been moved to <a title="My Life Thus Far" href="http://lifeofmick.wordpress.com" target="_blank">lifeofmick.wordpress.com</a>.</p>
<p>This blog will be concentrating on some more serious topics.  There are many things in which people should know more about, so this blog will hopefully be used as a teaching device.  I&#8217;ll try to keep it interesting and worth the gander.</p>
<p>To start off, we&#8217;ll be looking at various cults that exist in the United States these days.  I plan on discussing the Mormons, Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, Christian Science, Scientology, and possibly a few others.  My hope is that by posting, you can interact with the material by commenting, and then we can have some discussion as to what the topic is.</p>
<p>So if you want the fun and goofy stuff, head over to the other blog.</p>
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		<title>What Version of the Bible Do You Use?</title>
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What version of the Bible do you use?  Many different translations are available these days, but do you know the difference between what you are reading and what someone else is reading?  My hope is that a little explanation will help you to understand the different ways a version of the Bible is made.
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<p>What version of the Bible do you use?  Many different translations are available these days, but do you know the difference between what you are reading and what someone else is reading?  My hope is that a little explanation will help you to understand the different ways a version of the Bible is made.</p>
<p>Before we get into the different versions, you need to know one over-arching fact: <em>every version of the Bible that is read in English is a translation</em>.  With that being said, no version will be able to do as good a job as the original language in which each book was written (Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic.  Not Latin).  Since most people are not scholars in these dead languages, we are bound to reading something that has been translated.</p>
<p>There are really two different ways in which the Scriptures are translated.  Most versions have several pages dedicated to explain this at the front of the book.  These are typically the pages that are ignored and overlooked.  I encourage you to take the time and read this part of the Bible so that you better know what you are reading.</p>
<p>The first way in which a Bible is translated is literally, or word-for-word.  The goal of this method is to take, for instance, the Greek wording and write out the translation as close to the way it was originally written.  Sometimes the original sentences do not make sense in English.  And example can be explained by word order.  Word order does not function the same in Greek as it does English.  The translator tries to make the most sense out of it while maintaining the original structure as closely as possible.  A good example is found in Matthew 5:8.  The Greek has the word order as follows, “They the God they will see.”  After learning about the language, you can see that the best translation would be, “They will see God.”  So at times word-for-word can difficult to make sense of.  PROBLEM: Not everything will make sense.  We are bound to figure out what the Scriptures mean by our own accord.</p>
<p>The other way in which people translate is thought-for-thought.  The main goal in this method is to see what the original meaning was in Scripture and translate the thought to modern English.  Usually the same words are used as the original text, but other times words are added to make better sense of what is being said.  PROBLEM: Since the translation is thought-for-thought, we are only able to see what the translator thinks is the correct viewing of the Scripture.  In some cases, the translator could be in error.</p>
<p>Which way is better?  That is really up to you.  The best way is to learn one of the original languages and do the translating.  But since most people do not have the resources, time, or motivation to accomplish such a daunting task, you really need to decide which option will work best for you.</p>
<p>Enough of the explaining, lets see what the different versions have to offer.  I hope this helps you to understand what is going on behind the scenes of your Bible.  Let me know if you have any questions and I will do my best to help out.</p>
<p>KJV - King James Version<br />
“The Authorized Version”<br />
Who authorized this version?  Not God, but King James… of England.  There were many English versions of the Bible around the turn of the century (back in the 1600’s), but none were done well enough to become the official version for the Church of England.  The work was done in 1611, and has been used ever since.  Many older copies of the Scriptures have been discovered since the KJV was written, so this is not looked as the most accurate of translations.</p>
<p>NKJV - New King James Version<br />
Translation method: word-for-word<br />
Though the wording is sometimes hard to understand, this is actually one of the best word-for-word translations.  The English is reminiscent of Old English, which adds character to this version.  It is much like the KJV, only it uses more and earlier manuscripts that have been found since the 17th century.</p>
<p>NASB - New American Standard<br />
Translation method: word-for-word<br />
The same technique is used in the NASB as the NKJV, only the English used is closer to what we speak today.  This is one of the better versions to use when studying Scripture because it avoids using words that have been lost in the Old English, while maintaining as close of word-for-word translation as possible.</p>
<p>ESV - English Standard Version<br />
Translation method: Essentially literal<br />
What does this method mean?  The translator of the ESV try to stay as literal as possible while having literacy excellence.  It is more along the lines of a word-for-word translation, though it would not be considered as literal as the NASB or NKJV.  Personally, this is my favorite translation to use because I find it to be both enjoyable to read and and an accurate representation of the original text.</p>
<p>NIV - New International Version<br />
Translation method: thought-for-thought<br />
Possibly the most widely used version of today is the NIV.  People enjoy it because of its’ ease of read, as well as the popularity.  When people come together to study Scripture, they typically enjoy having the same version to read together, so more and more people give-in to the masses.  Is that a bad thing?  Not necessarily.  The NIV is one of the better thought-for-thought versions available.</p>
<p>NLV - New Living Version<br />
Translation method: thought-for-thought<br />
Other than the Message, this is possibly the largest diversion of the original text.  If you are an NLV user, I would strongly suggest its use only as free-read and not as a study tool.  At times the translators change the original meaning to fit their theological slant, which is dangerous and potentially harmful.  Be careful with this version, and if you are studying use an NASB or NKJV along side with it.</p>
<p>The Message<br />
Translation method: thought-for-thought<br />
Reading through the Message almost feels like you are reading a story.  There is a lot added here to bring the meaning out.  Just this morning I read part of Job where it makes reference to drinking a cup of coffee, something that was not around until the 9th century AD.  The Message is a good version to free read, but like the NLV, not the best version to use while studying.</p></div>
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